ABOUT 20YEARPRO
BACKGROUND • HISTORY • TRACK RECORD • PAST PROJECTS
We've been doing this for a long time so we know how it goes. There's a very high turnover in this business. New traders, trading groups, programs, etc,. come and go almost daily. They pop up, usually without much history or background, they do well for a while, then slowly fade away.
The problem is that just by sheer odds alone almost anyone, at some point, can do well for a while (several months even). Unfortunately the odds always have a way of catching up and eventually their numbers start to flatten / balance out and they find themselves in the same category as 95% of all other Forex Traders - NON-Profitable
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When you have zero history or background to go on you really have no way of knowing whether the numbers you're seeing or hearing about are only temporary, or if they're part of an overall pattern that you can reasonably expect to continue.
The PURPOSE of THIS PAGE
Is to give you an idea of who we are; what we've done over the past few years and what we bring to the table.
If we sound like a group you'd like to get on board with, great.
If not, that's fine too.
But either way you'll at least be able to make a more informed decision. And when it comes to putting your money into something, an informed decision is really the only decision you should be making.
BACKGROUND & PHILOSOPHY
Over the past 20 years we have worked and made a living in everything from penny stocks; to options trading;
to running a successful sports handicapping service; to professional gambling in Las Vegas; to network marketing.
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...which brings us to our most successful venture yet. Trading in the Forex Market.
PHILOSOPHY
We truly do have a "take care of our members first" mentality.
We know if we take care of care of YOU, we'll get ours in the end and everyone's happy.
This mentality is evident throughout our entire Earnings Structure as well.
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The typical, average "pay out" (such as IB Commissions) from Forex Brokers is about $2-$3 /Lot.
Our Rebate Programs (money back on your own trades) are HUGE AT $17 /Lot 1st month
and $14 /Lot after.
We could very easily keep most of that for ourselves and members would STILL make a killing and no one would even know.
But we don't. We pass all of that onto our members.
The same with IB Commissions: $8 /Lot. We could easily keep a good portion of that for ourselves.
But again, don't. We pass it on to you.
The average Performance Fee for PAMM or Managed Account is 25%-35% (even as high as 50%). Ours is 15%. AND we even split that with our members (Profit Share Earnings).
We're not here looking to make money FROM you, or FROM your money. We're here to make money WITH you.
We don't charge subscription fees; or membership fees; we have no products to sell you or for you to sell.
We don't get, or even want, a penny from you until AFTER you've made money.
We feel that's the way it should always be.
MAM, COPY TRADING & SIGNAL SERVICE
2019-20 We ran a MAM Account with FX Choice before they stopped accepting US customers.
2021 we had our Copy Trading & Signal Service. The domain is still active trade.20YEARPRO.com
​Registered 2019
This was a white label through
All signals and copy trading went through them.
Below are some screenshots and highlight videos of the performances of the various
Master Accounts we had at the time.
Copy Trading / Signal Service
Account Performances
A Separate Group We Traded With
POST COPY TRADING/SIGNAL SERVICE
Late 2021 - Early 2022
Prior to Millennium Compounder Program
Early Stages of
MILLENNIUM COMPOUNDER Program
Prior To Updated Trading Style / Strategy
BROKER REIMBURSMENT OF PAMM ACCOUNT - TWICE
If you know anything about brokers you know that convincing one to reimburse you is an EXTREMELY difficult task and one that is rarely ever successful. And if they do reimburse you, they will give you back the absolute bare minimum that they can get away with. So this is something we are proud to have been able to accomplish for our members even one time, let alone twice with the same broker.
In July 2021, and again in September 2021, our PAMM Account took on large, significant losses that did not add up to us.
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After a couple days of combing through our MT4 history, trade logs and collecting certain information from the broker it was clear to us that there was an error somewhere on the broker's end that caused this. We then presented our case to the broker (we no longer use this particular broker).
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Within less than 48hrs they responded, agreed with us and fully reimbursed every dollar that was lost.
Both times. $336,000 & $245,000
Brokers have many different account types and systems that their accounts run on (PAMM, Copy Trading, etc). Each one is specifically programmed, and they are very different in how they divide risk, leverage, margins, profits & losses between all the accounts.
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JULY: An error in their programming did not divide the total risk of open trades proportionately among the PAMM Sub Accounts.
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SEPT: An incorrectly placed decimal in their programming for Metals & Indices did not provide the correct amount of leverage that we were told we had.
RED FOLDER E.A.
In 2019 we created an E.A. (Expert Advisor / Trading Software) specifically designed to trade "Red Folder" news. These are "high impact" news events that happen throughout each week (https://www.forexfactory.com/calendar) and have the potential to create huge spikes in price one way or the other. It was a basic "straddle" strategy designed to catch the spike in either direction, ride it as far as we can and cash out before it retracts.
It worked beautifully. We would only risk 5-10 pips per trade (2%-5% total risk) and profit anywhere from 10-100 pips per winning trade.
Our biggest loss was -5.34% while we had wins over +50% and even one over +100%. And each win was only 1 trade that lasted an average of about 20 SECONDS.
TEST / EVALUATION ACCOUNT
$1,000 into $126,000 in 8 months
+12,500% GAIN
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**Max DrawDown shows -68% but we never actually went over 7-8% DD. The high DD was from a few trades at the end of using this acct that we didn't bother closing.
PAMM ACCOUNT
+50% on 20 trades in about 2 weeks.
Their Liquidity Provider kicked us out after this.
Their claim was that since the duration of our trades was so short (usually <30 seconds) they accused us of just trying to rack up IB commissions. Proving otherwise was of no help.
TESTED NEW BROKER
+77% on 5 trades in 4 days
Kicked out.
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Their reasoning was their "2 minute rule" that states all trades must be held for at least 2 minutes before closing (ours were almost never more than 1 minute).
From that point we reached a deadend.
Since the price moves so fast during Red Folder news events,
execution speed is crucial, otherwise you could lose 20-100 pips in slippage.
We simply never found another broker that was suitable for this EA to work properly.
WE HAVE PLENTY MORE
Information throughout our website to provide you with more insight into us such as
our entire TRADER INSIGHTS section
OUR CONTRIBUTIONS ELSWHERE
Below is an example of when we stepped in to assist an E.A-run PAMM Account with another group. The E.A. got into trouble and was on a path to blowing the account most likely that night until we intervened and stopped new trades from opening.
Even after that the EA/Account ended the night with a huge -38% Loss. However, with our manual trades we added a +40% gain for the night so the account went from almost certainly being wiped out, to a huge -38% loss, to actually ending the night with a small profit from our trades alone.
​In the world of E.A.s (Expert Advisors - Automated Trading Software), the truth is there is no such thing as a profitable EA that can be left to run all by itself, indefinitely​, without occasionally running into a situation that will, at the very least, knock out all your profits up to that point.
It just can't be done. It's just not possible to program an EA to have the proper response to every single possible different scenario that may occur in the market over the course of years. That wouldn't even be a realistic expectation.
However, there ARE a handful of EAs out there that, with the occasional manual intervention, CAN do this.
LEGACY is one of them. LEGACY is as close to a perfect EA as you can get. It was developed 5 years ago and has been as reliable as they come. 98% of the time it will handle everything just fine all on its own. But since we run it with SLIGHTLY more aggressive settings than default, every once in a while even it needs a little manual intervention.
What do we mean by a "little" intervention? Well, in the past 4 months LEGACY has been running the show all on its own and doing great.
7 hours and 11 trades in the past 4 months is all the manual intervening LEGACY has required so far. This happened to be last week.
JPY pairs were on a runaway, breakout sprint to some higher targets and with the EA on the SHORTs we began getting into higher DrawDown which was a sign it was going to need some manual intervention soon. Thursday night (24th) is when we jumped in and by morning all was well again and we have been back to making steady profits since.
​GIVING CREDIT WHERE CREDIT IS DUE
While 7 hours and 11 trades ​sounds like we barely did anything at all, the reality of what was accomplished in those 7 short hours with only 11 trades and the significance it had on the overall success of the LEGACY account simply cannot be overstated.
PERFORMANCE WITHOUT MANUAL TRADES
PERFORMANCE OF MANUAL TRADES ONLY
COMBINED END RESULT
If you're interested in how this all went down you can follow the slides below and we'll walk you though it all from start to finish.
Slide 1 of 6
All open positions from the EA were SELLs. You can see where most of them were and how the price began shooting up past them bringing all these positions into DrawDown - signaling that we may need to manually intervene soon.
LOOKING GOOD AND GETTING BETTER
